Lanterns HBO show

[Jack T. Chance]

Well thats a way to approach an argument, insult someone instead raising valid points. I've never once insulted anyone beyond James Gunn and his ability or lack of ability to write compelling stories for solo characters and here you are insulting me. Interesting tact.

NEWS FLASH: JAMES GUNN IS ONLY AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER ON LANTERNS, HE DID NOT WRITE ANY OF THE EPISODES!

 

[Reinheld]

I don't think fixating on box office is actually that helpful or realistic nowadays, it's not the only marker of success for movies any more. How frequently they are watched on the streaming platforms they are all being rushed to is. That's where the money lies for studios. There are very few huge success stories in the cinema - and people aren't going as frequently. I go most weekends, but the only time I was in a super full screening of anything in the past year was for Spider-Man (and that was only because the screen was full of kids - we took our godson). Our local cinema has basically removed 4 rows from each screen (except the IMAX one).

While I agree box office is not the end all be all like it used to be, it's still a good indicator. If a movie brings in less than it costs, that's not a good sign of success. All the streaming numbers, or 'impressions' or whatever metric can ALSO say a movie is successful in other ways, they won't over-ride a movie that can't make money in theaters.

I think for the few year period where movies were launching ON streaming, or dual launching, you have a point....but things have gotten back to a more normalized launch pattern of wide release in theater first...then streaming after the initial run is over.

 

[Anik Sur]

While I agree box office is not the end all be all like it used to be, it's still a good indicator. If a movie brings in less than it costs, that's not a good sign of success. All the streaming numbers, or 'impressions' or whatever metric can ALSO say a movie is successful in other ways, they won't over-ride a movie that can't make money in theaters.

I think for the few year period where movies were launching ON streaming, or dual launching, you have a point....but things have gotten back to a more normalized launch pattern of wide release in theater first...then streaming after the initial run is over.

Oh for sure its an indicator, it's definitely not THE indicator though. Back in the day when movies were at cinemas for longer release periods and didn't arrive on streaming 3-4 weeks after - we were waiting like 9 months for a vhs/dvd, there was more incentive to go see the movie. Because folks know anything at the cinema will be on streaming sooner than later, there's no FOMO. People are happy to wait and watch it in their living rooms. I think the consolidation of studios and proliferation of streaming has been incredibly damaging to the traditional movie ecosystem.

 

[Cipher_Baelin]

NEWS FLASH: JAMES GUNN IS ONLY AN EXECUTIVE PRODUCER ON LANTERNS, HE DID NOT WRITE ANY OF THE EPISODES!

EPs don't have a influence or say on anything? Is that what you're saying?

 

[Cipher_Baelin]

I don't think fixating on box office is actually that helpful or realistic nowadays, it's not the only marker of success for movies any more. How frequently they are watched on the streaming platforms they are all being rushed to is. That's where the money lies for studios. There are very few huge success stories in the cinema - and people aren't going as frequently. I go most weekends, but the only time I was in a super full screening of anything in the past year was for Spider-Man (and that was only because the screen was full of kids - we took our godson). Our local cinema has basically removed 4 rows from each screen (except the IMAX one).

But when it comes to the movies, they aren't making their full budget back on the streaming service, especially when you consider that most companies are loosing money on their streaming services. D+ is a perfect example. It looses Disney 100s of millions of not a 1B+ per year.

And Spider BND proved that superhero movies aren't dead. But studios can't be doing connected universes anymore, people are tired of it I think. Just make good movies that can stand on their own.

 

[Miranda31]

But when it comes to the movies, they aren't making their full budget back on the streaming service, especially when you consider that most companies are loosing money on their streaming services. D+ is a perfect example. It looses Disney 100s of millions of not a 1B+ per year.

And Spider BND proved that superhero movies aren't dead. But studios can't be doing connected universes anymore, people are tired of it I think. Just make good movies that can stand on their own.

I'm not such a big Spidey fan that I can comment on recent movies, although I like Tom Holland in the role.

However looking at reports from the last few months, Disney's "spend up big" phase has ended and they are making money again. It's a gamble, but I don't know that armchair commenters have an inside track on whether it will suceed or not.

 

[thedemonocus]

I bailed after 3 episodes that was enough for me

 

[Illumin]

the colamity that is Watchmen,

Watchmen was great. I do remember there being some backlash from the "waaaay too much flannel in their wardrobe" types. But ya can't please everybody.

 

[Miranda31]

Watchmen was great. I do remember there being some backlash from the "waaaay too much flannel in their wardrobe" types. But ya can't please everybody.

Indeed.

A tad off topic - I've never watched the 'True Detective' series that people here, and online reviewers, are referencing. Is it worth viewing?

S1E7 + 25 hours.

 

[Reinheld]

Indeed.

A tad off topic - I've never watched the 'True Detective' series that people here, and online reviewers, are referencing. Is it worth viewing?

S1E7 + 25 hours.

Season 1 and 3 were good (season one VERY good). Skip the other seasons. They are all stand alone stories, so no need to watch them all or in any order, but 1 is for sure the best season and great television. And sorry.... but it's WAY better than this show.

EDIT: Just a heads up, the show is told in a non linear 'flashback' format with things happening in the present and past at back and forth intervals. It's pretty clearly divided, but if you don't like this kind of storytelling, stick with it an episode or 2 and any objections will pass I'm sure. As this kind of storytelling mechanic is more frequently used today(like in Lanterns, minus the actual year showing up in each section), I'm sure it will be fine, but when the show first aired I know some had issues with it being 'confusing'.

 

[GhostRyder3000]

They also didn't jump straight to Gaurdians of the Galaxy or Captain Marvel, because outside of the comic fanbase, few had heard of them.
They introduced Iron Man in a solo movie, no ensemble group of heroes, Iron Man doing Iron Man things.

Your obvious socio-poltical views aside....


You're sort of shooting yourself in the foot here...

Iron Man, at that time, was not a major marvel character... There was a reason why Marvel still had the rights to him after selling off their popular characters to movie studios:

He wasn't that well known.

 

[Illumin]

Indeed.

A tad off topic - I've never watched the 'True Detective' series that people here, and online reviewers, are referencing. Is it worth viewing?

S1E7 + 25 hours.

I haven't watched them either. I heard A LOT of VERY good things about the first season and thus it's been on my watch list for some time. It might just be time to finally get around to it.

 

[Fadii]

sooo the final ep .. was so meh except the last 10 mints with john and guy lmao i was laughing so hard

 

[Reinheld]

sooo the final ep .. was so meh except the last 10 mints with john and guy lmao i was laughing so hard

For a minute, I almost thought there was going to be some 'Lanterning' going on in the Lanterns TV show....phew...close call.

It will be interesting to see if a S2 is green lit, will it still be "John and Hal's therapy hour", just minus Hal now, or will they actually do some superhero'ing by accident?

Oh and his 'new and improved' oath? Buns...

 

[Fadii]

For a minute, I almost thought there was going to be some 'Lanterning' going on in the Lanterns TV show....phew...close call.

It will be interesting to see if a S2 is green lit, will it still be "John and Hal's therapy hour", just minus Hal now, or will they actually do some superhero'ing by accident?

Oh and his 'new and improved' oath? Buns...

right? his new oath is gen z lmao .. quick and fast . bro i could watch john and guy for full hour trash talking each other lmao

 

[Jack T. Chance]

right? his new oath is gen z lmao .. quick and fast . bro i could watch john and guy for full hour trash talking each other lmao

People on Facebook and other social media sites are freaking out about the new Oath, as if this is the only time a Green Lantern has made their own Oath. But of course, us long time fans know it's not. And we also know whose Oath is the best Oath:

 

[Jack T. Chance]

Alright, let's turn this discussion in a better direction, shall we?

LET'S SEE YOUR LANTERNS INSPIRED DCUO STYLES!!! I'll go first!

Old Hal, both with and without the "Night Vision Sunglasses":

I tried using the Glowing Chromas on the sunglasses to try to get the glowing green lenses as seen in Episode 5, but I wasn't satisfied with the results that provided.

Old Hal in an Armored GL Corps Uniform "Inspired By" the show's uniform, but fixing some of the things I disliked with the show's take on it:

Guy Gardner "Inspired By" Guy's look in the DCU:

Anyone else got any they want to show off?

 

[Cipher_Baelin]

Your obvious socio-poltical views aside....


You're sort of shooting yourself in the foot here...

Iron Man, at that time, was not a major marvel character... There was a reason why Marvel still had the rights to him after selling off their popular characters to movie studios:

He wasn't that well known.

It is funny you talk about my obvious socio-political views, which is weird. Because I've not made any leaning towards anything politics as far as my view on the show. I hate the show from a writing perspective and a show runner perspective. Damon Fing Lindelof thought it was stupid to have green in a show about Green Lanterns. One of the writers said on the Midnight boys Ringer Verse podcast that their wasn't a bunch of backstory about John Stewart outside of comics. Which tells me that cow didn't watch the JL animated series, the GL animated movies or cartoons. They also talked about replacement and how one person should step down to make room for someone else, then they themselves brought up the 2024 election cycle. Which tells me these modern writers cannot write about anything that doesn't exist unless it crosses their news feed or they see it somewhere. I mean why couldn't we just see space cops wearing green suits fighting in space killing aliens.

But look at other writers, they wrote great works that are still popular decades later. They had experiences to draw on, sure they drew from historical events. I mean Star Wars and the empire is akin fascist regimes throughout history. But they didn't focus purely on that. JK Rowling grew up in poverty and wrote one of the greatest fantasy series of all time (imo ofc). And she drew on some of her experiences growing up when writing the books, but we didn't get any of her personal hangups or modern politics in the series.

So where you are so keen to call out my politics, which are completely and 100% irrelevant to anything on these forums, you aren't so keen to call out the obvious biases of the writers of this F ing show.

And actually I'm not shooting myself in the foot. Iron Man was more well known the the Guardians of the Galaxy or Captain girl boss Marvel. I grew up on DC comics and watched very little of the marvel animated stuff growing up and I knew of Hulk, Iron Man and Captain America, and Thor.
But the point of that is, they brought a bunch of characters in solo movies got the audience used to them and invested in them before bring them together. And honestly that was something Snyder failed at too. Snyder wasn't great for DC, James Gunn is terrible for it.